Thanks for this work @adrian this is the best roofing quote I’ve seen this season, and the additional effort to teach us how to do future roofs is very valuable. I may not have time to help before I leave for the winter. @Dame @slimbandana313 would you be interested in working alongside the professional roofer from Diverno to redo the roof on 3731? It would be a paid job, I’m open to what’s a fair hourly rate or total job rate, and also making sure we all have our own workman’s comp insurance.
It is common for Michigan LLCs to exclude employees (members) who are also managers and own at least 10% of the company, as well as their family members.
This would be a reason to file a separate LLC for 3731, giving 10% to every member who wishes to do large contracting work for 3731, and the remaining (greater than 50%) percentage ownership to Detroit Arcology LLC, governed by contributions on this forum.
I’ll present a more detailed proposal in a separate thread.
Two More Requests for Diverno
I have two more requests for Diverno, both geared towards helping us keep maximum knowledge and skills for future Arcology rehabs. I’m happy to speak with Diverno Paul directly if you think it’s a good idea. Thanks for your patience, these steps will make it much faster and easier to do future roofing jobs.
Hire a dumpster
Four layers of asphalt shingles is very heavy and takes a lot of space, and we can also use the time to demolish the kitchen, bathroom, and other areas with structural weakness in the house at the same time, as well as remove the illegal dumping across the street in the empty field.
In consultation with the neighbors, we can park the dumpster in the alleyway for 2 weeks, and also offer to dispose of any of their construction debris or trash as well.
We can rent a 20 yard dumpster for $470 for 2 weeks from Waste Management
We can also use whoever Diverno would recommend, as the goal is to better understand the cost structure of a roof job for the future, and to open source it.
@adrian I’d like to use metal tiles as you suggested, in particular flat ones from Boral that look like asphalt tiles (to match the neighborhood) and can take a roofmount solar panel system. They are available wholesale from Calculating Materials For Your New Metal Roof - Mid-Michigan Metal Sales
This will probably delay when we can start the roofing job based on when materials can arrive, unless Diverno already has these or a similar metal tile in stock (e.g. Isaiah’s Great American Steel Shake).
They are probably more expensive than what Diverno was planning to use, but also have been shown to last longer (40 years or more) as opposed to an asphalt roof which needs replacing every 25 years.
If Diverno is okay with us purchasing our own materials with their advice, especially if they don’t carry metal tile, I’d be open to discussing a change in the $16,000 that is still advantageous to them as consultants / supervisors.
Feedback and opinions on this proposal, especially disagreeing with me or skepticism, are very welcome.